This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their upcoming changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities can't plan. I've heard of courses being cut because the government has no process in place for universities to send the newly required acceptance letters to the government.

This means that students who have been accepted can not attend courses that start in the summer 2024 semester. With cut sections, current Canadian students will have trouble getting courses, and may have to switch to part-time which changes their enrollment status and might trigger repayment of their loans or ineligibility for funding. I've seen this before. It wreaks havoc on the student loan borrowers.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment. Will the new system needed in a rush for the acceptance letters be the new Arrivecan scandal?

I call on the government to implement a slower phased in approach and delay the requirement of the acceptance letters until a process is in place to submit these letters.


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    Posted: 23/July/2008 at 4:00pm
I have an outstanding Ontario Student Loan and Canada Student Loan.  They've gone to collection agencies.  I wasn't able to pay them off for a number of years because I was unemployed, returned to school, and just generally lazy ;-).

Anyways, I've been employed now here in Ontario for a year.  Accounts Recovery Corp. started phoning me about my outstanding Ontario Student Loan.  They called me twice at work (I have no idea how they got my work number, but I do not want them calling me there under any circumstances).  I called them back this evening and spoke to a woman there.  I owe about $12000 on my OSL loan, but she told me that if I pay it all off now in one big sum I will only have to pay about $10000.

Of course I can't pay it off all at once, I simply don't have that kind of money.  I offered numerous times throughout the call to pay it in installments (approx. $100/month, maybe more, maybe less, depending on how much I need to set aside for rent, car payments, etc.).  The woman from ARC wouldn't accept that.  She is under the impression that I can go to the bank tomorrow and apply for a bank loan to pay it all off.  I told her repeatedly that that is unlikely, as my credit rating is in the toilet and no bank in the country would dare give me a loan.  ARC woman wouldn't accept that, insisting that banks give loans to people with bad credit all the time.  I don't believe her at all, when I told her this she accused me of calling her a liar.

She also told me that my outstanding Canada Student Loan does not affect my credit rating, is that true?

Long story short, ARC woman wants me to go to the bank and apply for a loan to show 'proof' that I'm making an effort to try and pay this off.  I'll go to the bank tomorrow and apply, but I don't expect to get it.  I'm supposed to phone her back after I apply.  If I'm turned down for the loan then she will discuss what my options are.

At first I wasn't going to go to the bank, but she threatened to get in touch with my employer's payroll office and take steps to garnish up to 33% of my paycheque.  I can't afford that, otherwise I might as well quit my job and move home.  What are my rights here?  If I don't get approved for a loan do they have to accept monthly installments?  Is her threat to garnish my paycheque an empty one.  I realise these people are trained to use a sort of psychological warfare to get you to pay up, but they have to be reasonable and understand my situation.

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This is a clear example of "bullying" that debt collectors are trained to do. Do you want some help with this? I can solve it for you so you don't end up in a bad situation. if you want, call me.
 
 
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Just to make ARC woman happy I tried applying over the phone today for a bank loan from the Bank of Montreal, and I was rejected (as I predicted).  I set up an appointment with my local B of Montreal branch on Monday, just to talk to them about a loan, in person.  I doubt I will get one, but maybe they can actually give me a rejection letter that I can fax to ARC woman next week.

What are my rights in all of this?  Do I have to talk to ARC over the phone, or can I tell them that all further correspondence be done by mail?  I don't like talking to them, ARC woman interrupts me while I'm talking and I'm not in the mood for her bullying and BS. 


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You don;t have to do all of this. However, if you don't seek help, you are going to be subject to their campaigns of collection activity. Mere suggestions as to what to say and what not to say are not going to solve your problem. You have already demonstrated that you cannot pay in full. The collector is clearly not accepting your inability mainly because they have to pressure people to do things in order to collect money.
 
This behavior is symbolic to having a jar on their desk filled with dyed-red fluid. They look at this jar every morning and think to themselves "I am really proud to have this jar. It is blood from a stone."
 
I have offered you help if you want it. Otherwise, best of luck!
 
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How do I get in touch with you?  The phone number at the cfwgroup link?  Will it cost anything for your help?


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Yes and Yes. If you want professional assistance, you have to pay for it. One of the problems is that you need professional help to solve this problem you are describing. It is not something that can be done on a forum. Some intervention is required.
 
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