This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their upcoming changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities can't plan. I've heard of courses being cut because the government has no process in place for universities to send the newly required acceptance letters to the government.

This means that students who have been accepted can not attend courses that start in the summer 2024 semester. With cut sections, current Canadian students will have trouble getting courses, and may have to switch to part-time which changes their enrollment status and might trigger repayment of their loans or ineligibility for funding. I've seen this before. It wreaks havoc on the student loan borrowers.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment. Will the new system needed in a rush for the acceptance letters be the new Arrivecan scandal?

I call on the government to implement a slower phased in approach and delay the requirement of the acceptance letters until a process is in place to submit these letters.


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In 2008 I paid my student loan off with a credit card (I'm dumb). The last payment was made in April 2011. It's in collections. I received my credit report months ago and see it on there and it says it will automatically be purged from my report 6 years from last activity. The 2011 April payment is the last activity as far as I know.

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Can they still sue me and/or garnish my wages before the 6 years is up in April?

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If you paid it off then there is nothing to litigate. If you owe a student loan and you don;t pay then they can sue a person, of course. The 6-year purge mark on credit reporting is a different limitation than the life lf a debt so to speak. Just because something drops off of a credit report doesn't mean that they creditor cannot collect - unless the debt in question is proven to be statute barred. 

You say you paid the student loan off. If this is the case then there is nothing they can do as the debt is paid. 
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Is the OP  asking about the credit card debt or the student loan debt?

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I think what he means is that he used his credit card to make a payment in April of 2011, and is wondering if the loan is statute barred or if legal action can be taken again him.  Canadian Tire MasterCard, for example, allows you to make payments to your student loan and also collect cash back on your credit card.
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"In 2008 I paid my student loan off with a credit card (I'm dumb). The last payment was made in April 2011. It's in collections."

If the student loan is paid off then there is nothing they can pursue you legally for.  The debt is paid. Unless you did not pay it off. If there is still a balance owing then they have 6 years from the date of last admission of liability to sue you. 

If the debt assigned to collection is the credit card account that used to pay off the student loan with, then the creditor has a certain amount of time to sue you, depending on the province. For example, if the credit card account was opened in Ontario,  then the creditor would have only 2 years from the date of the last admission of liability 

Limitations for credit reporting are completely separate. For example, in Ontario, the provincial law prescribes a 7-year period to report. However, the credit bureaus only reports unpaid debt in collection for 6 years as a standard rule, unless there is judgment or no limitations that apply to the debt being reported.   
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Thanks for all your help everyone. Royal-NCO is correct, I wondering if the loan is statute barred or if legal action can be taken against me. The student loan was paid off.


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You wrote: 

"In 2008 I paid my student loan off with a credit card (I'm dumb). The last payment was made in April 2011. It's in collections."

If you paid the student loan out then there is no debt to sue or push a limitation on. A debt paid is a debt paid. 






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Originally posted by johnnybgoood johnnybgoood wrote:

Thanks for all your help everyone. Royal-NCO is correct, I wondering if the loan is statute barred or if legal action can be taken against me. The student loan was paid off.



If you made a partial payment with your credit card, then you likely revived the statute barred state of your student loan, if such as state ever existed.

If you fully paid off your loan than this is no longer a student loan issue.  You'll need to check your local limitation rules.  In Ontario, an unsecured debt like a credit card has a 2 year limit.  You may have a statute barred loan if you managed to avoid any payment or written acknowledgement of the debt over the last two years, or whatever the limitation period is in your province.
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I'm assuming you have defaulted on the credit card and therefore are worried about the student loan, because the credit card was used to pay off the loan.  Is that correct?

You would not be sued for the student loan. They got their money. How you paid it is not something they'd be concerned about.

The credit card debt might result in a lawsuit for recovery, but as Royal-NCO states, it might be statute barred depending what province you are in.




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Isn't that what I already said. ? LOL
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He's not asking about credit card. He is asking about student loan. 
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Originally posted by Johnny Johnny wrote:

He's not asking about credit card. He is asking about student loan. 

Its not at all clear what he's asking.  You don't know any better than the admin or me.  He could be asking any of the three below.

1)  Used credit card to clear student loan fully, but oops it still sits on his credit report as a debt owed.  Can they sue him?

2)  Used credit card to pay student loan partially.  Still in collections.  Can they sue?

3) Used credit card to pay loan fully.  Credit card debt went to collections.  Can they sue?  ( Perhaps, he actually fears that the student loan provider will sue despite student loan being paid fully with credit card. )

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THis is funny. THere si nothing in the person;s message that suggests his credit card is the issue. It is a student loan. Clarity It is definitely required, yes. But based on the actual question this person is asking if the student loan can be taken to legal proceedings - or barred. The person said the loan was "paid off" using a credit card.  If it is paid off then there is nothing to litigate - or bar. 

1) Credit items can be reported for the time in which they can be reported, which is based on two things - credit bureau policy or provincial reporting law. In Ontario the law says 7 years, but Equifax holds their policy to 6 years from the day it was first reported as a bad debt. 

There are people who have student loans that have been in default for a decade, are paying them slowly, and yet have no trace of it in their credit report. THat is because it drops off after 6 years from the day in which it was first reported as a bad debt. 

Anyway, answering the question as it is asked is what I think is the best approach here. Otherwise, the arguing ensues between you and I because this is what you like to do. 


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Johnny, read the title:  Credit Card Debt Gone Collections


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That I did not see! My apologies mate! Seriously.  

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Originally posted by Johnny Johnny wrote:

That I did not see! My apologies mate! Seriously.  


Yes, it sounds to me like he did exactly what I did.  I used my credit card to clear the provincial portion of the student loan.  I managed this because my job at the time allowed me to use my credit cards to buy product for customers, and then the customer would refund me at the door with cash ( liquor delivery job).  Over a period of a month I loaded up 12K of cash off my credit cards, and then threw this at my Ontario student loan (provincial portion) and cleared it in full.  However, this left me with a 12K credit card debt at 19.95%.  Fortunately, I had done a ton of good work to rebuild my credit, and the bad student loan trades had aged off.  Therefore, I qualified for a consolidation loan at 8% which I just paid off in full a month ago.

I went through all of this to avoid a loan that can never be statute barred, and can in theory reappear on my credit report indefinitely, as it bounces from collection agency to collection agency.

Anyhow, for the OP, he was likely not so lucky, and his credit card debt instead went to collections because he couldn't maintain it at the high interest rate.

If this is true, the correct answer for him is that his credit card debt is likely statute barred if he has made no payments in two years, but that varies from province to province, and there are several gotchas with the statute barred issue.
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Yes. One of those gotchas is the way creditor's rights lawyers use that "from when the claim was first discovered ...". That is something creditor's rights lawyers play around with quite well. 

Get this. The BC government will gaff an income tax rebate and if a borrower does not dispute it, then it is deemed an acknowledgement by the BC legal and government thus extending the limitation period. There is jurisprudence in BC to that affect. 
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