This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their upcoming changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities can't plan. I've heard of courses being cut because the government has no process in place for universities to send the newly required acceptance letters to the government.

This means that students who have been accepted can not attend courses that start in the summer 2024 semester. With cut sections, current Canadian students will have trouble getting courses, and may have to switch to part-time which changes their enrollment status and might trigger repayment of their loans or ineligibility for funding. I've seen this before. It wreaks havoc on the student loan borrowers.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment. Will the new system needed in a rush for the acceptance letters be the new Arrivecan scandal?

I call on the government to implement a slower phased in approach and delay the requirement of the acceptance letters until a process is in place to submit these letters.


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    Posted: 03/June/2004 at 9:21pm
GOOD NEWS!!!
It seems that the 2003 budget has finally been implemented. Have a look at
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/2004/20040602/html/sor120- e.html#REFa


Scroll down to see the "Regulator Summary"
We still have to deal with Edulinx screwing up and losing forms and not knowing the regulations though...
How will they train all those people all over again... sigh....
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The 2003 federal budget included amendments to the Canada Student Loans Program (CSLP) aimed at increasing accessibility to debt management measures. Interest Relief and Debt Reduction in Repayment are debt management measures which operate in conjunction to provide assistance over the short- and long-term, to borrowers experiencing financial difficulty in repaying their loans. These measures help borrowers avoid default, encourage repayment and decrease the costs of collections for the Government of Canada, and provide a viable alternative to bankruptcy. Amendments will extend eligibility and increase the amount of assistance provided through the debt management measures. Additional amendments will adjust wording for ease of interpretation and administration, and act on recommendations provided by the Standing Joint Committee for the Scrutiny of Regulations. Regulatory changes are necessary to implement the proposed amendments.

Interest Relief (IR)

Borrowers who experience short-term financial difficulty in loan repayment, and who meet certain income criteria, may be eligible to receive Interest Relief (no payments of interest or principal). Currently, eligible borrowers may backdate their application for the benefit by two months and, if necessary, add up to an additional three months of accrued interest to their loan principal each time they apply for the benefit. Regulatory amendments will increase the number of months (six months) by which borrowers who meet the eligibility criteria may backdate an application while continuing to enable borrowers to add up to an additional three months of accrued interest to the loan principal. The ability to backdate an application will be available each time the borrower applies for the benefit; however, amendments will limit the ability to capitalize three months of accrued interest to once in the borrower's lifetime. This restriction is being placed on the benefit to prevent continued growth of the borrower's outstanding debt and to prevent a rise in costs to the Government of Canada.

Amendments recognize that certain borrowers may not be fully aware of their obligations under their loan agreements and/or the debt management measures which are available to them and, as such, fall into arrears to the point where repayment is unmanageable. The increase in the number of months in which a borrower may backdate an application for the measure will help these borrowers maintain their loans in repayment status and help them avoid collections activity.

Debt Reduction in Repayment (DRR)

The Debt Reduction in Repayment measure was implemented in 1998 to provide assistance to borrowers who face prolonged periods of financial difficulty. It has become apparent that the current design provides only a limited reduction to borrowers in dire financial situations, and the remaining amounts do not leave the borrower with a manageable debt. Amendments will increase access to the measure by expanding eligibility and by providing a greater reduction to those who qualify.

Amendments will introduce a Debt Reduction in Repayment Income Table, which includes more inclusive income thresholds which will allow more borrowers to benefit from the measure.

Currently, eligible borrowers who are a minimum of five years out of school may have their debts reduced by the lesser of 50 percent of the loan principal or $10,000. Enhancements will provide eligible borrowers with a first reduction in an amount up to $10,000 and up to two subsequent reductions in an amount up to $5,000 each in 12 month increments, providing borrowers with a maximum reduction of up to $20,000 in outstanding debt. This increase in available assistance will help reduce loan defaults and ensure that reasonable levels of affordable loan payments are in place for low- to moderate-income earners who have been unable to reap sufficient return from their investment in education. The reductions will provide borrowers with a more manageable monthly payment on their loans. As it is not the intent to provide a reduction to borrowers who are not abiding by their repayment obligations, amendments will require a minimum monthly payment between reductions. Flexibility may be possible in exceptional cases at the discretion of the Minister.

Due to the generous nature of the reduction measure, borrowers will only be eligible for these three reductions once in their lifetime. Eligibility will also be restricted to borrowers who are residents of Canada, in order to be more consistent with the eligibility requirements for Interest Relief and to provide for risk management. Borrowers will continue to be ineligible for the first five years after leaving school and will be required to exhaust at least 30 months of Interest Relief prior to receiving a loan reduction. These criteria are consistent with the overall CSLP debt management strategy.

Bankrupt Borrowers

Currently, borrowers who participate in a bankruptcy-related event (bankruptcy, consumer proposal, scheme for the orderly payment of debts) are restricted from receiving new loans, interest-free status, Interest Relief and Debt Reduction in Repayment. These restrictions force borrowers into default on their student loans and reduce the likelihood that they will complete their studies and find gainful employment. In addition, these borrowers are restricted, pursuant to the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act, from discharging their student loans for 10 years after leaving school.

Amendments will extend eligibility for debt management measures (Interest Relief and Debt Reduction in Repayment) to borrowers who become subject to the Bankruptcy and Insolvency Act. This enhancement will help bankrupt borrowers avoid default on their student loans while encouraging repayment. The extension of benefit to this group of borrowers is consistent with CSLP debt management measures which are currently available to borrowers experiencing financial hardship in repaying their loans.

In addition, borrowers who declare bankruptcy while still in school will now be able to continue with, and conclude, their current program of study. Amendments will extend eligibility for new loans and interest-free status to bankrupt borrowers who are still in school. These borrowers will, however, be restricted from changing programs or starting new programs of study; allowing repeated programs of study would result in higher, and potentially unmanageable, debt loads. The enhancements will promote repayment of loans while increasing the ability of borrowers to do so.

Further Amendments to Clarify the Regulations

Regulatory amendments are also being pursued to provide for administrative ease and greater clarity in the Regulations. For the sake of administrative ease, all borrowers who are restricted from receiving further financial assistance will be required to undergo similar steps in order to remove those restrictions (pay outstanding interest and enter into a repayment agreement that is no more onerous than six consecutive payments), regardless of the type of loan they hold. In addition, amendments will be made to the eligibility criteria for Debt Reduction in Repayment in order to provide greater clarity in the Regulations. The term "in good standing" will be removed from the Regulations and replaced with specific requirements. This amendment is being pursued due to difficulties in defining and administering the requirement
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as i read further, these regulations came into force on the day they were registered which was May 11, 2004.  almost a month ago.  yet the canlearn website has still not been updated to reflect these changes.  i realize that these things take time, however, time is money for all of us (i.e. interest charges)

although i'm happy that we will finally get some relief i too am skeptical regarding when we will actually reap the benefits of these changes.  for instance, how long will it take to get the bureacracy in order.  and more importantly if we are the only key players who are aware of the changes, then will we be responsible to educate the collection agencies and banks?  (as per the status quo)

i am also wondering why it took so long to implement this 2003 budget (16 months after it was proposed).  I will note that it came into force conveniently close to the charter challenge court date.  so now, if the general argument was to include the fact that no help is available for bankrupt SL borrowers, then that point is now moot.

this is my thinking....maybe i'm just paranoid (or bitter)

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What about the fact that if you've been out of school for 5 yrs., then you no longer qualify for interest relief? It keeps driving me nuts that I have 18 months of interest relief but since I ceased to be a full time student more than 5 yrs. ago I cannot use it. Has this been  changed as well?To me, ir should be available when you need it as long as you haven't used it all-- regardless of how long you've been out of school. My CSL is in collections so doubtful that these changes will help me at all at this point.

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i agree, for some of us, these initiatives may have come too late to matter.
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I called the federal government ..Lucy..was the woman I talked to.  She told me that I still won't qualify for any programs because I declared bankruptcy before the ammendment of May 11, 2004.  She then directed me to the canlearn website where I couldn't find the ammended regulations she told me that were there.  Well I searched and couldn;t find a thing! 

Is she right....can I never qualify for any programs...Someone help.

 

I keep missing the boat on any programs.  This seems so unfair.

Desperately need help!
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unfair is right.  crap, i hope that she's not right cuz if she is i'll be screwed (along with a whole bunch of other people here

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what is all this interest relief stuff?  I am $1200 short of paying off my student loan now, and 75% of what i paid was interest.  I moved, they did not have my address, i was not in contact with them or anyone for that matter, so they 'defaulted' my student loan, sent it to collection agency, and for awhile, i completely forgot about it.  I was told when I applied for student loan (she filled it in for me, the counsellor at the college, for she knew all the 'maximum' amounts alllowed for certain things) that i would not have to pay it back after, for i was a single mother and i would qualify for 'restitution'.  so i presumed that i didn't have to pay it back, which was all good, for i'll be damned if i could try and get a job with the 'Career College' on my resume.  What a joke.  First resume in the garbage would be a 'Career College' resume, i found out later of course.... anyway, I have paid well over $6000.00 of my stupid canada student loan, and 75% of it was interest.  How can I find out about this new information regarding interest relief..... if I can get some of this money back that would be great, for now I have CBCL calling me for my 'Alberta Student Loan'.... them of course being rude idiots and saying that they're willing to 'settle' for it..... i was sure that this was all inclusive in my 'judgement' against me for everything..... someone please help me!!  i am so understanding of people 'going postal', talking with these idiots.
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The link in the first post no longer works. Can
someone post a current link?
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Go to http://www.canlearn.ca
click on national student loan centre, and then on repaying your loan
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote W H Y Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05/July/2004 at 8:22am
interesting thread for a new member,
as a canadian living in fortress europe for longer, as
a "survival artist" contemplating bankruptcy (Visa
paid CSL and illegal life here), also as someone
under the Interest Relief program via a "blurry" 4
times 6 months extended International Internship at
a NPO. Good to hear that the Interest Relief could
still apply since i would only now (otherwise
unknowingly) look into the bankruptcy possibility.
Looking for information about how/if Canadians can
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that i could apply for Interest Relief from Rotterdam.
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I can't find any changes to the regulations regarding
the rule about not being in arrears if you apply for
debt reduction. Can someone point me to the
changes? Thanks.
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Debt Reduction in Repayment (DRR) - DRR is a targeted debt management measure available to assist borrowers who have exhausted IR and who continue to experience exceptional long-term financial difficulty. The measure provides a reduction in the borrower's loan principal and aims to reduce the monthly loan payment to an affordable level relative to the borrower's income.

Borrowers in financial difficulty may be eligable for an initial reduction of their loan principal of up to $10,000. Borrowers who continue to experience difficulty in repaying their student loans may be eligible for two additional reductions of up to $5,000 each. In order to be eligible, twelve months must elapse between each reduction. Borrowers will be required to make a minimum monthly loan payment of $25 in order to qualify for the second or third reduction.

Solve Student Debt specializes in solutions for students and graduates in student loan default, and those at risk of defaulting.

solvestudentdebt.com
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 I think that loans have to be current and up to date (not in arrears) over and above being out for 5 years, and exhausted at least 30 odd mnths of interest relief to qualify. Don't hold me to that though. I was told ythat student loans must be up to date in order to qualify for this measure.

 

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Ok so do I have to clear my $822 of arrears?
Somone in the FAQ said I didn't have to because the
regulations have changed? Anyone know for sure?
I've called my MP's office and they'll look into it but
given the MP in question I don't have a lot of
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Elsewhere someone said:
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Contact Scotiabank again and ask them if they are
aware of the recent changes to the Debt Reduction
Program. I have heard that your loans can be 60
days in arrears and you can still qualify.

Or you can inquire about paying the outstanding
interest to bring you to the point where your Debt
Reduction Application can be processed.

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Anyone know if this is true?
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 I will contact an individual at the government level tomorrow and get them to fax me some details for you. I will post them when I reveive them.

 

 Johnny

 

Solve Student Debt specializes in solutions for students and graduates in student loan default, and those at risk of defaulting.

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My OSL interest relief is also expiring at the end of
July. Anyone know how debt relief works for that
program? I've asked for an application but don't
know the ins and outs yet.
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Originally posted by Johnny Johnny wrote:

 


 I will contact an individual at the government level
tomorrow and get them to fax me some details for
you. I will post them when I reveive them.


 


 Johnny


 



Thanks a lot.
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ok, talked to the feds and they confirmed that the new
regulations came into effect may 1st etc. Talked to
Scotiabank and they said that should be fine. Now I
have to get my application in ASAP and hope they
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The Regulations Amending the Canada Student Loan Regulations (SOR/2004-121 11 May, 2004) are here:

http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partII/2004/20040602/html/sor121- e.html#1

 

The Canada Student Loan Regulations (currently updated to April 30, 2004), which are modified by the above, are here:

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/S-23/SOR-93-392/text.html

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