This website is a testimony to the problems Canadian Student Loan borrowers experienced from approximately 1996 to 2008 and until their loans were paid off.

The privatization of the Student Loans system by the Chretien and Martin Liberal governments broke the system and defaulted thousands of borrowers who were trying to pay their loans. There were even stories of suicide due to the harassment of borrowers.

Read the report that I prepared back in 2007 here. Canada Student Loans-The Need for Change Fortunately the new Conservative government at the time revamped the program and fixed the system for new borrowers, but borrowers under the previous program were left with ruined credit and continued harassment from debt collectors.

I call on the Canadian Government to apologize to the borrowers affected by this fiasco and make amends.

Unfortunately the Liberal government is again clobbering the Education system with their upcoming changes to International Student Visas. Yes, there's a problem, but instead of a well thought out plan, they have pulled the emergency brake on the train causing a derailment. This has introduced unprecedented instability for both private and public education institutions who serve both international and local students.

Universities can't plan. I've heard of courses being cut because the government has no process in place for universities to send the newly required acceptance letters to the government.

This means that students who have been accepted can not attend courses that start in the summer 2024 semester. With cut sections, current Canadian students will have trouble getting courses, and may have to switch to part-time which changes their enrollment status and might trigger repayment of their loans or ineligibility for funding. I've seen this before. It wreaks havoc on the student loan borrowers.

Again, the Liberal government has messed up the education environment. Will the new system needed in a rush for the acceptance letters be the new Arrivecan scandal?

I call on the government to implement a slower phased in approach and delay the requirement of the acceptance letters until a process is in place to submit these letters.


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    Posted: 11/May/2005 at 5:01pm
I thought I had an agreement with Royal... but... seems even though I have 3rd party representation... they have sent my loans to collections... without discussing it with me or even trying to contact me or sending me any letter stating that my willingness to negotiate had changed.

I told them I would try to get off OPD.... but this took months. OPD never sent the default notice... I had to get on OPD to do that. I would have expected Royal to at least call and see what had changed and if I could now negotiate. (OPD wanted payments of 944 per month!)

Today I got a call from a Miss Allen, and I returned the call.

but what a strange call.

What is your name.

Mark O'Meara

That name sounds familiar.

There's a golfer by the same name...

"I SEE ON YOUR FILE WE HAVE LEFT SEVERAL MESSAGES AND YOU HAVENT CALLED US BACK."

no... thats not true.
WELL HOW DID YOU GET OUR NUMBER THEN?

I only received one message, not several. And once I receive the message I called you back.

WELL YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY IN A MOOD FOR AN ARGUMENT.

No, what would you like to discuss.

YOU HAVENT PAID YOUR STUDENT LOAN.

Yes thats true, but I have been in contact with RBC and had negotiations started and third party representation

WELL YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR THIRD PARTY TO CALL US>

Well, what do you need from me right now?

OBVIOUSLY YOUR NOT WILLING TO DISCUSS THIS. I NEED TO PUT YOU ON HOLD AND TAKE A DEEP BREATH.

,,, on hold... eventually comes back.

YOU JUST GO AHEAD AND TALK TO YOUR THIRD PARTY AND GET THEM TO SEND THAT AGREEMENT. WHO IS IT?

I'll do that. I dont need your sarcastic tone of voice. I'm willing to work with you.

I hear typing on the computer....

GOODBYE... they hung up...

What an absolute waste of time... Hope the royal bank sees this and realizes what a useless collection agency they have and how they have now discredited themselves in my eyes.


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Ok...
so they phoned again today...

This is Ms Allen, we spoke numerous times at the beginning of the month.

NO WE DIDNT.

YES WE DID

No, we spoke once on monday.

ARE YOU GOING TO ARGUE WITH ME

What would you like to discuss.

YOUR FILE HAS BEEN SENT HERE BY ROYAL BANK. DONT START GETTING RUDE WITH ME.

I have third party legal representation and you should negotiate with them.

WHO IS IT.

It is..

WHO IS IT>

IT is

WHO Is it.

If you'd stop interuppting me I'll tell you.

OK YOU'RE PRETTY RUDE FOR AN OLD MAN.

I remain silent..

OH YOU'RE BEEING REPRESENTED BY JOHN LEBLANC. I'm GOING TO CALL JOHN AND TELL HIM ON YOU. CLICK!

(She hung up!)


Will keep you posted... this is so so stupid! What morons these people at Royal have hired to work their files!
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shes bsing you

she just wanted an excuse to call you and pressure you
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My heart pounds reading the script of your conversation with "Miss Allen"  as I have had the exact same conversation with several people who like to be called Miss or Mrs or Corey or Patrick.  The raising of the voice, the accusation that I am being difficult, that I am childish, selfish, a bad mother, that I should be ashamed of myself and the example that I am setting for my child--what a game they play.  At first I made the mistake of actually trying to talk to them and explain my situation.  This is a waste of time as the collectors that the Royal Bank hires are coached to put you down and bully you.  One guy told me that the payments that I had been making were laughable and that my request for a receipt was ridiculous.  I consider that to be a refusal of my payments.  In order to regain my self esteem, I stopped dealing with them. I told them that I would not deal with organizations that encourage abuse. When the phone rang, I started saying "I am not able to make payments at this time. Goodbye". When I am able to make payments again, not a red cent will pass through those agencies. The calls have stopped coming for now and I have no idea what that means. 

As a last note, my son and I had a good giggle with one extremely abusive collector who had made me cry.  The next time he called, I simply placed the receiver beside the phone and walked away. He continued to babble and rant.  Then we could hear him calling my name in a confused and helpless way.  The power, at least to control what I listen to, was back in my hands. 

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The collector assigned to my file had called me on Saturday and by the end of the conversation she says I was a waste of breath....and I agreed....HAHAHA....as she was as well to me which I told her!!!

Royal Bank amazes me.....collector trash callers...nice image!!!!

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The really stupid thing is that Miss Allen did not even try to arrange payments or a solution. She simply called, abused me and hung up.

Not productive at all, except to prove to me that I will NEVER deal with Royal Bank ever again.

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I have posted the following chronology at 'Edulinx and CIBC Frustration Stories' Forum as well:

I have been trying to resolve my student loan maladministration problems with both CIBC and Royal Bank through the federal Office of the Privacy Commissioner and the Provinve of Nova Scoti'a Service Nova Scoti and Conumer Complaints since the year 2001. Although I apply for employment, I have been unsuccessful, and I believe that my reliability is damaged by this maladministration, and will NEVER obtain a job in my profession as long as thius problem remains unresolved.

Both complaints involve libellous credit reporting and harrassment of myself and my family by the CIBC and Royal banks and their agents. I have a full record of ALL my dealings with these bank entitiesand it seems to make little difference when their staff are caught in lies.

For example, the Royal Bank sent police to my parents home, in December,2002, late at night to deliver a letter from a law firm in Halifax, Stewart McElvies, oredering me to stay away from their office, not once, but twice in two days. One letter was from a senior lawyer of the firm named George Caines, the other was from a lawyer named Grant Machum. I have never met these lawyers, and would not visit their office without a lawyer. They alleged that I threatened them in a fax when I did no such thing. The Lawyer/police incident occrred just after I could no longer afford a lawyer,I am getting nowhere with the Privacy Commissioner or the Provincial Conumer complaint.I still retain all my correspondence since the first incidents in the year 2000.

Below is a chrono;gy of my CIBC maladministration and harrassment poroblem. I have a similar chronology for the Royal Bank:

CIBC Maladministration Problem

Chronological Facts

1. I received a letter dated September 5, 2001, from Errol Campbell, my assigned personal banker at the CIBC branch in the Bayers Road Shopping Centre, Halifax, stating in part that:

‘…as a result of your current credit situation, past credit history, and the fact that you are now over your approved limit, your line of credit privileges have been cancelled effective immediately. The account has been placed on deposit only….

CIBC would prefer that you and Alexander (note: my father, cosigner on the unsecured CIBC PLC) make arrangements to pay the balance in full at your earliest convenience.’

2. No notice of the demand for payment in full sent to me by CIBC’s Campbell was sent to my cosigner about this matter, nor did Campbell contact me by telephone prior to sending the payout demand for any information.

3. There was no prior notice of the demand, nor were there any unarranged payments on my PLC due at the time of the receipt of CIBC’s Campbell’s demand letter of September 5, 2001.

4. My last and only discussion about my CIBC PLC with CIBC’s Campbell was in January, 2001, when I called him for approval to have a payment on my PLC held to month end.

5. I received a letter date September 14, 2001 from CIBC Visa’s Celine Guerrette stating in part:

‘Use of your Visa card and Visa account have been temporarily suspended …’

My CIBC Visa rate was increased from 18 % APR to 23%, without notice, and left for me to discover on the December, 2002 Visa statement.


5. On review of my files, I noted that Trans Canada Credit had declined a short term loan that I applied for in December, 2000 due to derogatory credit ratings of my student loan accounts, held by CIBC and the Royal Bank of Canada.

6. On further inquiry with the CIBC in September, 2001, after I received CIBC’s Campbell’s demand letter of September 5, 2001, and the CIBC Visa letter of September 14, 2001, the CIBC’s ‘customer care’ department in Toronto advised that in August of 2001, the CIBC’s ‘credit risk’ department in Toronto performed an annual confidential credit review on my credit files during August, 2001, and they discovered derogatory credit information on my file.

7. On November 22, 2001, I called the Equifax and Trans Union credit reporting agencies about my derogatory credit files, and was given verbal information. I was informed that there was an ‘I-9’ or ‘write off’ credit rating on my CIBC Canada Student Loan, and the rating had been on their file since April, 2001.

8. The other items on my credit report referred to my business purpose CIBC Visa, rated ‘I-1’ or paid as agreed, my business purpose CIBC Personal Line of Credit, rated ‘I-1’, or paid as agreed, and my Royal Bank Provincial Student loan, which was approved under the ‘student loan interest relief’ program and contained derogatory ratings, although on both student loan accounts, did not require installment payments by myself, by agreement of the student loan interest relief program.

9. There was a ‘minor’ delinquency, the credit reporting agencies words, in April and January, 2001, otherwise, the only derogatory credit ratings referred to both my student loan accounts, from CIBC and the Royal Bank, which were continually either approved for student loan interest relief, or in the process of being approved, yet these student loan accounts were still given derogatory installment ratings, although no installments were actually due, and there was no derogatory behaviour by myself.

10. From March, 2000, onwards, there were many bank processing delays of my student loan interest relief applications to the banks, which automatically triggered collection activity by both banks collection agents, while at the same time the banks were processing my student loan interest relief applications.

11. Since graduation from my graduate program, in October, 1999, I had continuously applied for student loan interest relief, while establishing and building my sole practitioner, urban planning and design business, and I had been continuously approved for student loan ‘interest relief’ by both the CIBC and Royal Bank student loans centers, as my income largely was used for my business expenses, including my CIBC Visa and my CIBC Personal Line of Credit.

12. My tax return statements are available, as are my business records, and my federal HST records to confirm my cash flows and deposits.

13. Throughout my student loan interest relief application processes from March, 2000, onward, both CIBC and Royal Bank had ‘automatically and electronically’ reported derogatory credit ratings on my file to Equifax and Trans Union credit reporting companies, via both banks’ computerized reporting programs which are used by the banks to share information with the credit reporting agencies computers. In this manner, my credit information from both banks’ computers was provided to the credit reporting agencies’ computers.

14. After receiving the demand letter of September 5, 2001 sent by CIBC’s Campbell, my personal banker at CIBC Bayers Road branch, Halifax, I immediately phoned CIBC’s Campbell for an explanation of the demand to pay off my business credit line, the unsecured Personal Line of Credit, cosigned by my father. CIBC’s Campbell referred me to the CIBC ‘customer care’ process in Toronto.

15. During the period between September, 2001 and the end of November, 2001, I was corresponding with Gail Sparks, Manager, CIBC Customer Care, by e-mail, telephone and facsimile, in order to repair the damage the CIBC had caused my credit files held at Equifax and Trans Union credit reporting agencies.

16. On November 24, 2001, CIBC’s Sparks advised me by telephone that my CIBC would be re-instated only if my cosigner, my father, and I attended the CIBC branch office on Bayers Road to have a new Personal Line of Credit agreement signed for CIBC’s Campbell, who was my personal banker, and to whom I understood that I was to refer for direction regarding all banking product inquiries and complaints, when I signed the CIBC’s documents for the CIBC Visa, and Personal Line of credit in July, 2000

17. I refused to re-sign a new CIBC PLC agreement, advising CIBC’s Sparks that the credit history was in error, and their own internal records did not agree with mine, and further that the CIBC review of my files by their Toronto ‘credit risk’ department was full of internal errors, and still further that these serious errors were being reported to Equifax and Trans Union credit reporting agencies and further had caused me delays, frustration and annoyance, and had in December, 2000, resulted in a credit reject by another lender. I advised CIBC’s Sparks that I would be calculating my damages in this matter

18. On November 28, 2001, I received a letter from CIBC Customer Care, Toronto, signed by Sparks replying to my e-mail of November 24, 2001, and states in part:

‘I am writing to fully respond to the concerns you have outlined in your e-mail of November 24, 2001.

As you are already aware, the CIBC Student Loan Centre reported information regarding your Federal Loan to the credit reporting agencies. This error was corrected on November 21, 2001. We have confirmed on Nov. 27, 2001 that both Equifax and Tran Union have amended their records as per the request of CIBC National Student Loan Centre.

The incorrect information reported by the Canada Student Loan Centre (note: this is the CIBC student loan centre) was considered in our decision to freeze your line of credit.

….and on November 27, 2001 your line of credit was reinstated with the same terms and conditions as were previously in effect.’

19. The CIBC customer care letter of November 28, 2001, (see item 16) did not mention anything about the Visa, and I was left on my own to discover that the CIBC Visa ‘credit risk’ department raised my Visa rate from 18% to 23%, as a result of the CIBC reporting errors, and I was unaware of this rate increase until I received the December, 2001 Visa statement and made payment on December 17, 2001. I simply didn’t notice the rate increase, and it was not explained on the Visa statement.

20. In December, 2001, I sent correspondence to the CIBC Customer Center in Toronto, and the CIBC V.P. Regional V.P. Retail, Atlantic Region in Halifax, thanking CIBC for resolving the credit errors the CIBC caused, and requested a reference for a client, Halifax Regional Municipality, where I was competing for more contract project work.

20. On January 2, 2002, the CIBC Bayers Road Branch Manager, David Riley, faxed the following statement to Halifax Regional Municipality:

‘Mr. Ewert has been a client of CIBC for 10+ years (note: I have been a client of CIBC Bayers Road since 1956, when my parents opened a savings account for me). He has investment, borrowing, and transaction business with our branch. All accounts are in good standing.’

20. At this point, I was not aware of the CIBC Visa rate increase (see line 19), and I considered the errors caused by CIBC resolved, and I took no further action against the CIBC.

21. When I discovered the CIBC Visa rate increase, I complained through the CIBC Customer Care. Subsequently, on advice of Gary Armsworthy, my Solicitor, I continued to make monthly Visa payments. My complaint about the Visa rate increase, and my demand to restore the CIBC Visa rate to the status prior to September, 2001, was refused in correspondence with CIBC Customer Care’s manager, Sparks.

22. On January 5, 2003, I applied through a dealer for conditional sales financing of some office computer equipment, and the application was turned down. When I telephoned the credit company, I was told that the offering was rejected due to bad credit on my credit report.

23. On March 18, 2002, I was turned down for a low-rate product package offered by CIBC, in an effort to reduce my Visa interest rate 10%. Further, I have a file of rejects from various credit card companies, all rejecting my applications due to poor credit ratings by CIBC and Royal Banks.

24. In a letter dated April 15, 2002, I was turned down by Americas Express in an application to pay off the CIBC Visa balance, on the basis of a Trans Union credit report they drew on me.

25. in a letter dated April 17,2002n my Solicitor,   Mr. Armsworthy inquired about the records CIBC had regarding my credit history errors, and CIBC rejected credit applications (see items 23 and 24).

26. On April 19, 2002, I called CIBC Telephone Banking, and a CIBC telephone banking representative, ‘Peter’, referred Visa complaint to CIBC supervisor ‘Mike”. I demanded that the original rate of interest on my Visa be restored, further that my application for a low rate CIBC Visa package, dated March 28, 2002, be reconsidered, and that all credit history errors caused by CIBC to my internal and external credit files be corrected by the end of business on even date. Supervisor staff ‘Mike’ advised that my demands would be acknowledged by fax or telephone. CIBC has not sent me their records of the several conversations that I asked to be noted by the said CIBC Telephone Call Centre employees, as I requested in my “PIPED’ Act statutory demand.

27. On April 19, I at 5:27 PM, I was telephoned by a ‘Clarence Layne’, a CIBC customer care manager of the CIBC Customer Care’s Directors Office. I advised CIBC’s Layne that I had taken my Visa rate increase complaint through CIBC customer care, that the CIBC Visa rate increased in error on my account had not been adjusted, as I understood it would be from my correspondence with CIBC customer Care, and that I was assessing my damages caused by the CIBC, and would I be discussing the matter with my Solicitor.

28. In a fax to Trans Union credit reporting agency dated April 24, 2002, I requested that Trans Union correct my credit information, and I was notifying my solicitor, Mr. Armsworthy.

29. In April , 2002, I requested by fax with a copy to CIBC Bayers Road, Halifax, and received in May, 2002, from Equifax credit reporting, a copy of my credit file information, as of April 29, 2004. This credit file that I received from Equifax continued to show the derogatory credit references regarding the CIBC student loan showing derogatory student loan credit ratings which I understood from the correspondence with CIBC’s Customer Care manager, Sparks, had been removed from my Equifax and Trans Union reporting agencies files, on instruction of CIBC, as reported by CIBC in previous correspondence.


30. On April 17, 2002, I attended the office of Gary Armsworthy, my Solicitor for legal advice

31. On August 24, 2004, I attended the office of Gary Armsworthy, my Solicitor for legal advice on commencing actions in the Supreme Court of Nova Scotia, preparation, presentation and service of notices of actions. I would have to represent myself and am not ready to take this step.



Note: Both derogatory student loan ‘credit ratings’ remain in dispute, and I filed complaints with the federal Office of the Privacy Commissioner in 2002, and the provincial Service Nova Scotia consumer complaints division in October, 2003.

The Privacy Officer’s review of both banks behaviour under the Federal ‘PIPED” Act is not complete, and usually takes a year for their review and decision as to whether the complaint is ‘well founded’ and whether to proceed with action in Federal Court. This is a separate process from my legal actions. This complaint has still not been resolves since 2002.
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