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I received a noticed first back in May 2004 of a grant overpayment of around $1200. I did ask for some documentation and received copies of letters that were sent in 1989 and in 2000. My parents moved in 1988, so these were never received. Funny how the collection agent in 2004 was able to find me without any problem.

The documentation showed the calculation of how they derived the overpayment. Apparently the parental income was higher in '86 than that reported on the '87/88 application. In 2004 I was unable to confirm my parents income back in '86, but lets just assume their calculation was correct.
 
[For the past 4 years I've pretty much ignored the collection agents. I felt morally justified in doing so. I recall just scraping by, not always having food or rent while completing the clinical phase of my training as a nurse. I was working as a student nurse in a hospital for the 10 month period that I received the grant for. Student nurses are not paid, either by the the hospital or the by the province. To add insult to injury, I had to pay tuition for this clinical phase, had to purchase my own uniforms and other items. Needless to say I really needed the grant money in '87/88 as my parents were just managing to pay bills themselves.]
 
I've received a couple of letters from the Canada Revenue Agency. This years anticipated income tax return of around $1300 will likely be taken to pay back the alleged overpayment. There is not much I think can be done to stop it, so...
 
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Would I be better off paying the collection agent prior to having the goverment take it? I am concerned about this "garnishment" showing up on a credit report at some point.
 
Were Ontario Study Grants considered income when they were given out, and/or would this have effected any amounts reported on a T2200 slip back in 87/88 - the year I was slaving away in the hospital. If so, is there any income tax deduction possible from repaying the grant overpayment.
 
Any information would be appreciated.
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Supposed "grant overpayment" from 1991
Well after being contacted originally in May 2004 by a collection agency and harrased on and off since, I found out today my income tax return was transferred to be applied to the debt!
  I'm planning on "Objecting to the Assessment" but I don't know what good it will do, they have my money now.  It also suggests I call the OSAP representative if I have any questions, which is the collection agency phone number.
 I'm going to contact my MP as well, don't know if he can do anything to help me.  I have a lawyer cousin that I spoke to briefly about this a while ago & he asked me to give him all the details but I never got around to it.  I had become used to the once & awhile phone calls from the collection agency, figured they would give up sooner or later.  It floors me that they can take my income tax refund without ever giving me my day in court, well I guess I will be forced to take them to court now.
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I'm a current student, and I've been contacted about OSAP overpayment from my first year.  I can't afford what they're asking for, but my family can't afford to fight it either, as we need OSAP for my final academic year.  My mother went down to the bank to make the payment, where she was told that she can't.

Can anyone please explain to me how I'm actually supposed to make these payments?
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The goverment did take the supposed overpayment off my income tax return, so I guess this is over and done with. You can't fight a giant like the Ontario goverment and they just pass legislation to get around things anyhow.
 
All I can say is that I have been an honest citizen paying taxes for the past 20 years since I graduated. I did appreciate the help I got with the grant, but now that they decided to grab it back some 20+ years later, my view on honesty with respect to the provincial government will change somewhat.
 
Welcome underground economy! Any time I purchase a used car or trailer privately, I will NOT report the true amount of the sale. Any time I need work or items for my house that are subject to PST, I will NOT put it on the books just to avoid paying PST. There are lots of little ways to avoid paying tax if you have the resolve. This is something I would not do before. It won't take long to recoup this money one way or another. Point in case - just saved $21.44 in PST today by paying cash! When the debt owed by the gov't to me is paid back (get the irony), I'll reconsider my ethics then.
 
So my message to all you other folks - when they finally take your grant back from 20+ years ago for some b.s. reason they can't support, there are options to get it back!
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Why is the system so awful?
A year after I had transfered schools I was informed that my transfer never went thru and I would have to pay back the grant I had received to the amount of $4,730. I had completed the program at the new school and had been told by the office manager at the new school that the forms were all in order. I had a baby a month after I left the school so I wasn't able to pay at the time, being a broke, single mom.
Now it's been 4 years, I finally got a good job and was getting on my feet when I suffered some medical problems and was unable to work.
Ironically it took the govt about 3 months before I got any EI, then I was told I could only get 3 months worth anyways.
(By the way I apologize for the long rant)
So, when I found that I was finally getting some proper money in my tax refund I was overjoyed, finally, I could pay the lawyer I had hired to get custody of my son when his dead beat dad had tried to take him away to ruin my life.
(This sounds unbelievable? It's my life of hell)
But, no, the govt has taken all the money and still wants another 2 grand out of me, seriously, they are sucking blood from a stone.
I cry alot because now the lawyer intrest is going to take away anything else I might get.
I am supported by family, but they don't have the money to pay my debts for me.
I will go to John LeBlanc, but if anyone has anything they can tell me, or even a success story in a situation such as this I would love to hear it.
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Sorry to be the bringer of bad new.

There is no longer a statute of limitations on Crown Debt that is collecting for student loans, welfare overpayments etc.

http://www.hooeyremus.com/Guide_(Limitations).htmOuch
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hi just got to this site. i have an grant over award payment as they said i did not pass/finish my course. i have been working off & on since then and also been on wsbc part of that time. does anyone know how best for me to proceed? i really do not have the money to pay this back as i have 0 left after paying normal living expenses. they have been taking my income tax & gst when i file taxes. i asked for interest relief but was told i had to pay 6000.00 before they could do that, if i had that kind of money i would have paid it already.
thanks for any help.Cry
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I have received several phone calls and a letter from NCO Financial Services demanding payment for a student loan forgiveness overpayment.  Not exactly a grant overpayment but this is the closest forum topic I could find in relation to my problem.  I seriously doubt I owe this money and am not at all sure how it was assessed that I was over-forgiven.  My problem is almost all of my original loan documentation going back as far as 1993 was destroyed in a basement apartment flood while at school.  I have no records of how much I was entiltled to negotiate nor any records showing how much money in loans I did receive.  The bank said doing a search could take a great deal of time and they would charge $20 per hour to do the search.  I feel like I'm at the mercy of the collection agency because I have no information of my own to compare with their figures.  Is there any way of getting copies of the original loan documents from my years in school so I can figure out if there has been an error made.  As far as I remember I always negotiated my loans to my full entitlement and I spent 5 years at school on loans the whole time.  I'm sure I was entitled to whatever loan forgiveness I was granted and they have made some kind of error.  The truly infuriating part of this is that this is not money I was given, it's money that I assume was paid to my financial institution with which I negotiated my OSAP/Canada Student Loan.  Now they want me to pay it back, why not get the bank to pay it back and put the balance back onto my outstanding loan, that is if I even owe it at all!

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